“Sony Needs To Lose The Spiderman Rights,” read the top story on the Marvel Studios subreddit on Sunday night. Despite punctuation failures, most seemed to agree that Sony Pictures’ experimental Spidey-less Marvel side-character franchise-ish thing was not working out as well as Garfield Without Garfield.

Kraven the Hunter” really doesn’t work. It is, however, more diverting in the ways it doesn’t work than “Madame Web” and the very, very not-good “Morbius.” Like those two, this one’s a Sony Marvel origin story,